BTW I imagine the collapse of Britain has traumatised most of the inhabitants of the NUSA. London was supposed to be the birthplace of the Pinnacle Man and now it is post-apocalyptic wasteland.

I wonder how the AFC is dealing with this
 
I wonder how the AFC is dealing with this
"And lo, Jehovah did ravage Britannia with his swelling pinnacle fluids, exploding in an orgasm of righteous judgement. And Jehovah, seeing what he had rought was holy and good, rested with a cool glass of sweet victory and a baconator burger, and 5.99 if thou would like fries with that"

-Book of Manifest Destiny, third revised edition
 
I bet the NUSA will put those homeless Britons to good use colonizing the uncharted depths of South America.
A random British refugee in South America: "Britain has been destroyed but at least I am safe now"

A random ORRA commander: "Sure, sure. BTW we are searching for unexploded mines so you and your family should walk in front of our tanks."
 
A random British refugee in South America: "Britain has been destroyed but at least I am safe now"

A random ORRA commander: "Sure, sure. BTW we are searching for unexploded mines so you and your family should walk in front of our tanks."
Nah, the British are Pinnacle Men-they are useful as colonists to populate the new colonies, especially when it’s hard to get Americans to move down there. They have every incentive to treat them well-they’d make Infee South Americans walk in front of the tanks to sweep minefields.
 
"And lo, Jehovah did ravage Britannia with his swelling pinnacle fluids, exploding in an orgasm of righteous judgement. And Jehovah, seeing what he had rought was holy and good, rested with a cool glass of sweet victory and a baconator burger, and 5.99 if thou would like fries with that"

-Book of Manifest Destiny, third revised edition
Wich brings another option: the AFC is going to blame the destruction of England on the "corruption" of its inhabitants.

Add the fear that some of the refugees could be Illuminati. Wormist or Beutelist spies and the AFC may turn against them
 
Honestly with NUSA getting their own Vietnam I can see this being one of the first steps towards their collapse in the 70s or 80s. I can't see them lasting beyond that.
 
Speaking of Vietnam, NUSA got a massive one in South America, Europa in North Africa, NHRE in Balkan, Carolina in South Africa, Australia in South East Asia, Nippon and Corea in China, so that would leave the Illuminist as the only one who don't really have any Vietnam analogue ? They're already leaving Alyaska, so what's left as their Vietnam ?
 
Speaking of Vietnam, NUSA got a massive one in South America, Europa in North Africa, NHRE in Balkan, Carolina in South Africa, Australia in South East Asia, Nippon and Corea in China, so that would leave the Illuminist as the only one who don't really have any Vietnam analogue ? They're already leaving Alyaska, so what's left as their Vietnam ?
The Asian half of the Middle East? India? Antarctica?
 
The Asian half of the Middle East? India? Antarctica?
So, Arabia and possibly if Europa lost the Holy Land, Israel are on NUSA's side, dunno about Iraq, Turkey and Iran definitely are anti-Illuminist but the Iranians didn't fare well during the GWW, so if it collapses, the Illuminist may try to take their chances, so yeah not just an Vietnam, but literally Afghanistan+Iran for Illuminist if Iran does fall.

As for India, is it weird that I kinda hope for it to become some kind of beacon of hope in Asia even though this is Madnessverse ?
 
Speaking of Vietnam, NUSA got a massive one in South America, Europa in North Africa, NHRE in Balkan, Carolina in South Africa, Australia in South East Asia, Nippon and Corea in China, so that would leave the Illuminist as the only one who don't really have any Vietnam analogue ? They're already leaving Alyaska, so what's left as their Vietnam ?
Either Persia or Turkey. They are both ideologically opposed to Moscow (the first is an absolute monarchy while the latter is a theocracy) and have a long history of war against the Russians
 
Either Persia or Turkey. They are both ideologically opposed to Moscow (the first is an absolute monarchy while the latter is a theocracy) and have a long history of war against the Russians

Almost certainly the latter if at all (the whole "drawing back into the cult bunker" thing) - Persia is a key part in NUSA's narrative about the miscegenation of Pinnacle Greeks; they hate Byzantium and are already somewhat friendly to Islam so the Turkic empires and migrations could easily be spun as a corrective to the miscegenatory rampage of the Mongols and revenge of the true Pinnies upon the Persianised crypto-Infee Byzantines, and the tendency of hardcore Prots to favour "the unbaptised Turk over the baptised one" (in reference to Suleiman vs Charles V) and occasionally issue coins with Turkish iconography on them definitely gives it precedent. Indeed, favouring the Turks also continues the NUSA's pattern of favouring Sunni Islam, and allows them to stir shit up in Central Asia, thereby disrupting both the damnable atheist Loomies and the decadent monarchist Persians.

Edit: Also, in terms of grand strategy, Europa as a rival superpower has already been severely weakened by Maddie. Now, while the new imperial core is likely to consolidate along the Med, and the number of refugees is probably going to be enough to make Algeria at least and most of North Africa at most as Europan as Marseilles, this in turn puts them in a position wherein NUSA support of the Sunni world is a dire threat. The native Arab populations of the Empire already aren't chuffed about being under Caesar, and while the nuking of Egypt quelled things for a while, the threat of outright displacement plus having a superpower on their side would likely result in a fair bit of madladdery at the very least. If they play their cards right, well, while Europan North Africa proper (settlement) and Egypt (nuking) are Imperial for a good while to come, a Sunni/Pinnie push to peel off West Africa and the Sahel is eminently feasible, and, given the mention of Israel in Andrew's Gospel Hour, odds are that a successful generalised Sunni-Jewish revolt in the Holy Land is going to be a thing: and getting Turkey, the successor-state of the Islamic empire Napoleon II carved it out of, on-side both is a powerful symbolic gesture and could only help in kicking the Europans out of Jerusalem. Now, while the outright liquidation of Europa isn't likely - both for reasons of narrative and because, you know, *nukes* - they're definitely going to go through downsizing. Egypt's secure, if only because of the nukes, and that protects the vital link with India, but the economic strain alone means that Caesar is going to have to trim the fat... And, well, High Command isn't going to like that one bit. Still - the NUSA is going to be rolling in oil money.
 
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Speaking of Vietnam, NUSA got a massive one in South America, Europa in North Africa, NHRE in Balkan, Carolina in South Africa, Australia in South East Asia, Nippon and Corea in China, so that would leave the Illuminist as the only one who don't really have any Vietnam analogue ? They're already leaving Alyaska, so what's left as their Vietnam ?
The Asian half of the Middle East? India? Antarctica?
So, Arabia and possibly if Europa lost the Holy Land, Israel are on NUSA's side, dunno about Iraq, Turkey and Iran definitely are anti-Illuminist but the Iranians didn't fare well during the GWW, so if it collapses, the Illuminist may try to take their chances, so yeah not just an Vietnam, but literally Afghanistan+Iran for Illuminist if Iran does fall.

As for India, is it weird that I kinda hope for it to become some kind of beacon of hope in Asia even though this is Madnessverse ?
Afghanistan and turkic/iranic* Central Asia are candidates for Illuminist Vietnam, although I'd bet the latter is just going to be the Illuminist counterpart to OTL soviet Central Asia.

*Tajiks and a few other minorities are iranic unlike the turkic uzbeks, kazakhs, etc
 
*Tajiks and a few other minorities are iranic unlike the turkic uzbeks, kazakhs, etc
That’s true, but luckily for the Fascists if they are looking to supply revolt against the IPRR in Central Asia and go with the route of declaring the Turks Pinnacle (likely as an offshoot of the Shebans like the Arabs), Tajikistan is mostly within Iran’s borders TTL. It would be much easier than it would be in OTL if NUSA decides to just lump them in with the Iranians who corrupted the Pinnacle Ancient Greeks. If anything they could fund separatist factions among the Turkic central Asian groups like the Uzbeks against Iran as well.
 
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At this point, you have to wonder if all the members of the Worm Cult are secretly spies for a foreign power
 
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