DBWI: The coup of '34 fails

Straha

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What kind of america and wordl woudl we get if the coup of 1934 didn't happen? We all know that from 1934 until the late 60s the US was a de facto dicatorship... wat woudl be the effects on a world where the US retains stable democratic government in the depression insterad of losing it for 30 years.
 

HueyLong

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Hmm.... would we have had the great public works of today? I mean sure, the dictatorship was bad for democratic governance, but it brought men jobs and money, and changed our landscape and economy forever.

Is there any chance of the Integrated Highway System existing under a civilian government? How about the Boulder Dam, or all the other ones providing power to the American West?
 

Straha

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We probably wouldn't go into space. Instead of focusing on technology, infasturcutre and big captial investments the US likely goes into a consumer society post WWII... Godo for faster rise in lviign sdtandards bad in the long run.
 

HueyLong

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Straha said:
We probably wouldn't go into space. Instead of focusing on technology, infasturcutre and big captial investments the US likely goes into a consumer society post WWII... Godo for faster rise in lviign sdtandards bad in the long run.

What do you mean? We did have a very big amount of consumer goods and a high standard of living.

Every American home, almost, had a car, a washing machine, and an informational teleview.

After the fall of the dictatorship? Plenty were sold to make ends meet, the TV stations went down, and new goods stopped rolling off the lines. Heck, our cars and other goods are more expensive, counting inflation and all of that.
 

Straha

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True we DID go into consumer society mode in the 70s but in a wolrd witohut the dictatorship we'd have gone to it in the latle 40s after WWII. Instead of the government backed cartels handling reinvestment in the economy thereby causing our LONG boom we'd e an unregulated anarchy.
 
Well, the entry of Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico into the Union may not be contested to this day in such a TL. Usually, states have to be admitted by an Act of Congress. President MacArthur and President LeMay both admitted states by Presidential decree.
 
do you think the us would have made any intervention in the european war? even if they hadnt been able to change the outcome, they might have picked up canada, instead of allowing them independence. then maybe the cold war could have been avoided...after all up till 1996 billions of dollars went on defense, trying to keep up with the germans.
 
Is it possible that a democratic government could've implemented some of the reforms that gave Americans work & food again? The party of the pre-coup Democrats had some promising pro-welfare elements...
 
Max Sinister said:
Is it possible that a democratic government could've implemented some of the reforms that gave Americans work & food again? The party of the pre-coup Democrats had some promising pro-welfare elements...

The Democrats were fundamentally a party of racist white Southerners. The pro-welfare elements were clearly just a sop to the Catholic workers who gave them their only votes in the North. Had the Democrats somehow managed to take control of Congress and the Presidency, I don't see how they would take any actions differently than the Republic administrations before them, except for a more pro-agriculture and less pro-industry economic policy.
 
That's Blasphemy...

That's just plain blasphemy, we all know that with the Zionist Overlord Government (ZOG) under Franklin Delano Roosevelt, America would have become another Communist dictatorship under the watchful eye of Joseph Stalin in Moscow. Anyone who has read New America (1936) by H. P. Lovecraft knows that America would have sent great men like beloved Charles Lindbergh, J. Edgar Hoover, William Randolph Hearst, and Henry Ford to "re-education camps" while the Socialists would have redistributed their hard-earned wealth to Party bosses...
 

Anaxagoras

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Straha said:
We all know that from 1934 until the late 60s the US was a de facto dicatorship...

It still is, if you ask me. When the Joint Chiefs of Staff have the right to veto the President's foreign policy decisions, and where the military is not under effective civilian control, what difference does it really make that we again have the right to elect the President and members of Congress? Especially since all those fancy voting machines are manufactured by companies in which members of the Joint Chiefs own a controlling share of stock?
 
This Just In!!!

USBC News just showed a declaration by President Ricky Martin that he intends to put the Armed Forces under his control as per the Constitution.

If you ask me, what on earth does a civilian know about the military? Sure, democracy is great today since the restoration. But civilian matters should be left with civilians, military matters should be left with the military. I just hope he doesn't adopt Warcraft strategies if indeed his plans succeed. And besides, we could be in danger of another dictatorship, whether under one of the generals, or under Martin himself!
 

HueyLong

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ZOG? You're one of those Natsies, huh? Ever since the Cold War ended, there have been more and more of you here. Funny, that. Your crazy anti-Jewish experiment fails, and somehow you get more gusto.

FDR's government was ended because he was guiding the nation into ruin. As we can tell from the near immediate recovery after the coup, he was doing nothing good.
 
Look At The Situation...

HueyLong said:
ZOG? You're one of those Natsies, huh? Ever since the Cold War ended, there have been more and more of you here. Funny, that. Your crazy anti-Jewish experiment fails, and somehow you get more gusto.

FDR's government was ended because he was guiding the nation into ruin. As we can tell from the near immediate recovery after the coup, he was doing nothing good.
Actually, consider that both Stalin and Hitler considered the Jews a major threat to their national security. That is why Stalin launched his "cleansing operation" in 1953. That is why Hitler launched the Wannasse Conference in 1942. And it is precisely the reason why Henry Ford was trying to warn America in 1915... Then again a liberal race traitor like yourself doesn't remember the "Dark Times", when "Rosenfelt" and his administration nearly sold out Christendom...
 
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