Rightly Guided: Zaid ibn Haritha and his Rashidun Caliphate
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I dunno whether to praise them or slap them for their choice. I know it's basically the OTL route, but that was reckless.
EDIT: here's the route visualized to all who are wondering. The distances look small, but the route from Quraqir to Suwa is literally over 300 kilometers of water-parched desert.
EDIT: here's the route visualized to all who are wondering. The distances look small, but the route from Quraqir to Suwa is literally over 300 kilometers of water-parched desert.
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It was reckless. It was brave. It was life-threatening. It was also what a companion of the Prophet would do. Also...
Edit: An Omar Nasheed since this thread seems to be lacking in music
I dunno whether to praise them or slap them for their choice. I know it's basically the OTL route, but that was reckless.
EDIT: here's the route visualized to all who are wondering. The distances look small, but the route from Quraqir to Suwa is literally over 300 kilometers of water-parched desert.
The March to Syria was one hell of a journey to make - both here (where it was a bit rougher thanks to the increased troop numbers) and OTL - and it came closer to defeating Khalid than any general has so far. His assessment, however, was correct; the other routes would have taken too long and if the army of Abu Ubaidah and Amr ibn al As was destroyed in the meantime, the Caliphate could kiss its dreams of a Muslim Levant goodbye. The elite soldiers of the Rashidun (particularly the proto-Mobile Guard forming amongst the cavalry) are a phenomenally deadly fighting force able to punch well above their weight - but their war machine simply can't take body blows the way that the Roman formations can.
This is the fundamental difference between Khalid and Muadh: the latter took an unneccessary risk with no true plan of action for seeing through his manuever, while the former made a dangerous but calculated decision that had some strategic framework for success.
Nice map, btw!
I think I might have to quote that line in another update. Plus, that's a solid nasheed. The soundtrack for Umar is great.
It's not mine, but I found it on this blog when I searched for a visual map of Khalid and Co.'s journey.
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Excuse me, but when was the term Rashidun coined? Was the Caliphate that was created after Mohammed referred to as the Rashidun Caliphate or did Muslims at the time simply refer to it as the Caliphate or Dar-al Islam?
Caliphate most likely as the term was most likely created after.
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@haider najib
I meant the term Rashidun, not Caliphate. Also, after what period? The term Caliphate or Caliph was used during Mohammed's reign, not after the Rashiduns.
I meant the term Rashidun, not Caliphate. Also, after what period? The term Caliphate or Caliph was used during Mohammed's reign, not after the Rashiduns.
I think it would've been coined after the Umayyad dynasty rose to power in order to distinguish it from the preceding government.
IIRC its made by the middle Abbasid era scholars to distinguish between the great Caliphs and the corrupt Umayyads (except for Umar bin abdul-Aziz)
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@inawarminister @GoulashComrade
Thank you for the information! In this case, how would the term Rashidun come to exist? If the term Rashidun is used to distinguish one polity from the other, what would it be used to distinguish from?
Thank you for the information! In this case, how would the term Rashidun come to exist? If the term Rashidun is used to distinguish one polity from the other, what would it be used to distinguish from?
They wouldn't it would be the caliphate. Maybe the rashidun here are the people whp were the companions of the prophets and the next caliphs are not companions.
"Officially the term Rashidun Caliphs refers to the first four Muslim caliphs, but some scholars assume that the guided caliphs are not limited to the four persons mentioned, but may include later caliphs whose lives are completely aligned with the guidance of al -Quran and Sunnah. One who by agreement of many scholars may be entitled Rashidun caliphs is Umar bin Abdul-Aziz, the Caliph of the 8th Umayyad Umayyad." quoted from local Wikipedia
either the caliphs is Muhammad's companion or the caliph's behavior and life is align with Qur'an and Sunnah. from the quote above the term of Rashidun is a title.
either the caliphs is Muhammad's companion or the caliph's behavior and life is align with Qur'an and Sunnah. from the quote above the term of Rashidun is a title.
