Are you going to do a revised version for the First Five Year Plan for each Secretariat? I really enjoyed those in Red Dawn.
The Great Crusade (Reds! Part 3)
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Hopefully we can see something like it.
And a quick summary of the 1930s and events leading up to the Great Crusade proper.However, Jello is going to focus after the last constitutional document to the WW2 updates. So, it's going to take a while before we get back to the 30s again. It seems to be that way.
Hopefully we can see something like it.
However, Jello is going to focus after the last constitutional document to the WW2 updates. So, it's going to take a while before we get back to the 30s again. It seems to be that way.
IMO, I'd rather go chronologically. But I'm not gonna stop reading either way lol.
I remember IP asking before if the UASR has mass media cooperatives to define the free press of the UASR.
Now, it seems that I see the Associated Press as a surviving media conglomerate, especially that it is a not for profit cooperative to begin with. That's a good start.
I am also seeing the possible political affiliations of ITTL counterparts of certain people IOTL.
Chris Hedges - DFLP
Cornel West - DFLP
Carl Oglesby - SEU
Paul Goodman - SEU
Sam Webb - PLP
Gar Alperovitz - CUP
Richard Wolff - CUP
Angela Davis - ANC/SEU
That's it so far.
Now, it seems that I see the Associated Press as a surviving media conglomerate, especially that it is a not for profit cooperative to begin with. That's a good start.
I am also seeing the possible political affiliations of ITTL counterparts of certain people IOTL.
Chris Hedges - DFLP
Cornel West - DFLP
Carl Oglesby - SEU
Paul Goodman - SEU
Sam Webb - PLP
Gar Alperovitz - CUP
Richard Wolff - CUP
Angela Davis - ANC/SEU
That's it so far.
E. Burke
Banned
I've got an idea for a thing later in the TL. A series of threads on the Althist board about a UASR citizen who rises from local soviet to the Central Committee. Like the first post is like:
"I've been elected to represent my factory in the town Soviet!" Over time we watch his/her rise to the heights of government and then his retirement. It would help to flesh out the political system of the UASR and give humanity to some characters.
"I've been elected to represent my factory in the town Soviet!" Over time we watch his/her rise to the heights of government and then his retirement. It would help to flesh out the political system of the UASR and give humanity to some characters.
E. Burke
Banned
I'm going to assume this place got renamed post rev:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Settlement,_Texas
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Settlement,_Texas
Possibly - communist revolutions tend to signify a break from the past so I imagine name changes like that may occur. Though I'm not sure how much the UASR considers itself a break from the US - where on the scale of "we're going to slap red stars on everything" to "let's dynamite anything that isn't communist" is the UASR in terms of breaking from the past?
It has renamed Washington DC to Debs DC for some idea of how much things changed. There's probably been a lot of towns, streets, and even states that have changed name to something less bourgeoise. In terms of towns I suspect it will depend on whether or not they were strongholds of KKK activity or whether they are actively on the side of revolution.
IIRC, Salt Lake City was renamed Haywood City in honor of the martyr Big Bill Haywood, and any towns named after Confederate generals/politicians.
E. Burke
Banned
It's actually DeLeon-Debs City so in a way it's DeLeon Debs City.
And yeah, Haywood City for Utah's Salt Lake City. I'd love a city named after Joe Hill too. Haha.
Should be Joe Hill city. That's where they framed him on a murder charge, but he ain't dead.
I think the reason is that Haywood was born in Salt Lake, and so it's named in his honour. I'm guessing Haywood didn't flee to the USSR here, did he live to see the revolution in the US? On that note, what did happen to Joe Hill in this timeline? I never read anything about him being arrested/executed, did he still rise to regional fame in the west organising (and songwriting)? Did other things come of him?
He could easily live the extra decade to see the revolution, he died at 59. He'd probably be too old to really take too much impact though.
E. Burke
Banned
Hey, old guys can do allot. I bet he played some role as a regional military leader. Probably is a majorish political figure.
I mean I'm sure he's a beloved old veteran of the struggle among the parties revolutionary wing, seen as a thorn in the side of the party right, and to one degree or another is a leader in the civil war, but he's too old to really shape the post revolutionary years given how the health problems that killed him in real life young won't exactly leave him at his best by the time of the revolution (primarily the alcoholism).
Found them. From the revised edition thread.
Haywood and Hill are arrested during the Biennio Rosso, in 1918:
Haywood and Hill are arrested during the Biennio Rosso, in 1918:
Haywood also spoke at the SLP National Convention in 1921:
He's also there at the 18th National Convention of the WCP, in 1932:
I think these are all references to 'Big Bill' Haywood. There are references to a Haywood after these, but those are to Harry Haywood.
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