Good chapter, would be nice of the Ottomans were pushed out of Europe much earlier than OTL. Would be poetic if it all ends with Constantinople being retaken, most likely we get an earlier Kingdom of Greece (maybe an ambitious person declares the re-establishment of the ERE). Eastern/Southern Europe will be very interesting to look at. Keep up the great work 👍👍👍.
The Prince of the Roses - A Tudor TL
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Thank you! And yes, it to a bit chaotic here. But Zapayola dying at Mohacs is gonna benefit Louis later as the headache he presented is gone. And I dare say that this was a win in a way for christendom. The Kingdom of Hungary is still standing. And while they took heavy losses, so did the Ottomans as well. Not to bad given the condition of this time.
Thank you so much! That would be nice. But I'm not sure of the framework of European powers are willing to go that far or if they have the manpower to fight the ottomans that far into their turf. While they all managed to get their shit together in this scenario, the various interests will later set them apart from each other.
They have their work cut out for them indeed. And he got to live!
Yep. And i sense that his "celebrations" with Mary will lead to another child
Zapayola Dying will spare louis a BIG headache
Time to forify hungary
And happy for William I beign successful rallying german princes.
This is all in the framework of several decades/centuries, not one giant crusade if that's what you are thinking. Just that I believe it won't have to take until the 19th Century for the Ottomans to face some serious pushback. Hope that clears anything up, great work 👍👍👍.
My lips are sealed regarding that.Yep. And i sense that his "celebrations" with Mary will lead to another child
Perhaps a less shitty Hungary will emerge!
He got of a rather good start. Defending Hungary against the ottomans did his reputation rather good.
YAY!
Yep, now he will have goodwill to use to begin the process of making Bavaria the crown jewel of germany.
Maybe TTL 1683 is known for the Siege of Constantinople, a massive coalition of christian powers to take back the City of Constantine.
I had plenty of fun in letting him die like Louis did OTL while trying to save an injured Louis.
Indeed he does. But I'm not certain of what amount of riches Bavaria possessed otl, so perhaps they can't spend as lavishly as the wish? Anyone who knows more about 16th century Bavaria on this forum? Please help me?
That would indeed be a very fun scenario.
They'll need to plan ahead very well and use their riches where it matters plus alliances and trade to bring in money
Yes, that I know. But I'm not sure how rich the Bavarians were or if they had something special going for then.
Thank you! I had a lot of fun writing this chapter. It is refreshing to write a chapter where France just kicks everyone in the balls for a change.